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  1. Hello and thanks for checking back. We ran into some issues getting the installer through the Apple process - and we had to change how we were packaging Postgres. The good news is that I now have a version that you can use. It has a proper installer and Apple Developer certificate! I now have access to a Mac with M1 hardware - and I have tried it there and it installs and works. The software is designed to run on MacOS 10.13.x High Sierra and later. This is our Release Candidate 5 (yes I know - it's always something - this is why it's taken us a while to get the release completed) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ahwh3gi34r1sn62/AADXRvGhxbivS_cDvUq1kJFJa?dl=0 In this dropbox you will find both the Mac and Windows installers along with a draft User guide - that is fairly complete - but needs a bit more work. We are collecting ideas for an update release, and at this point will only be fixing showstopper bugs. We are happy to have more eyes on the software and more feedback. Anyone else reading this - we would appreciate it if you drop a note on this thread and let us know that you are trying out the software - even if you don't have anything to report. Tell us what platform you are on. There is sample data installed with the database. There is still a little work to finalize it. You can also backup and restore data you may have created from the Beta version. You do that using Restore in the database menu in the software - and it will run scripts to update your database to match the latest data model. There are a lot of new features - that you will not have any data for - but you can at least reuse your equipment, locations, subjects etc. You might want to play with the sample data before restoring your own data - as it is fairly complete with examples of processing, work products, and SIPs. Also - review the section of the user guide about backup and restore. If you want to use image data that goes with the sample data - you can get that from this dropbox (not quite final) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z3mnalr29z3bu8a/AACYrcTjH1_uHi7tKC0kPhi4a?dl=0 When we release to our website - we will have zip files containing the sample data for folks to download. Thank you for your interest - and for trying out the software. Carla
  2. We've had a bit of a delay with the Mac installer - related to getting it signed in the Apple Developer program. We hope to have something to try out in the coming days. We have been using Postgres 13.3 - but the developers have also tested on 14.2 with no problems. In the new software we install our own private copy of Postgres so as not to interfere with any databases someone might have installed or running on their system. We use a non-standard port number to communicate with it. Carla
  3. Hi Nils - We have been working to get the 1.0 release completed, and we have a release candidate now (RC4 actually) . We found an issue with the Mac installaer that is being worked on - but I'd like to have you try the new software as soon as we have that. We do not yet have a Mac with an M1 chip - though we have one on order that should be here later this month. It would be super helpful to have this checked out. We did upgrade the Postgres DB - but I don't remember what number we are on now. There are massive improvements and new features, including that the Inspector is fully integrated, there's a working archiver tool, we can collect info about processing and results (called work products) So, I'll let you know when there is a version you can try. I am hoping this week. Carla
  4. Hi Sammy - I have gotten the RTiBuilder software to run on Windows 10 on new computers recently. It wasn't obvious - and required that I double click the rtibuilder.jar file rather than the usual rtibuilder.exe file. I don't know what is causing this - but it worked. On one computer, I had difficulty getting it to crop the images successfully - but it ran fine if I didn't do that. On another computer it all worked. Good news! we just received a grant that has a small amount of money for updates to RTI software and we are working to collaborate with another group to get new software out. Stay tuned for an announcement on this very soon. The new software will also be open source.
  5. Hi Thierry - We have done a lot of work on the software and now the DLNCC and the inspector are integrated, and also we have added an archiver. We also support collecting information about processing. You can have RTi and photogrammetry image bundles (as before) and now there is also support for documentary image sets, and spectral imaging. There are many other improvements. We have a release candidate we are testing right now, with a few others - and we hope to get the 1.0 final release out by the end of the year, or early January, depending on what we find in the testing. Thanks for your encouragement! Carla
  6. I agree with Dave's suggestions for additional information. Also, if you are using the HSH fitter do NOT use any of the advanced options. That's known to cause problems. It doesn't explain the issues on PTM though. There are certain errors that we see frequently - Unknown error detected, and also a JPEG library call error. The errors you report are not ones I've seen before. Is it possible that you have a permission problem, and the software can't write files (like the lp file)? And finally, as Dave notes, it's sometimes helpful to look at the xml log file that is created for your project. There can be clues in there as to what is happening, and what steps were successfully completed. Carla
  7. Hi - yes - there are basic backup and restore capabilities in the Beta - and more sophisticated tools coming in the next release. Sorry it's been so long, but we are working hard on a new release now, with a lot of new functionality. So stay tuned. Carla
  8. Hi Fien - We have done some work to clean up the code a bit, so hopefully it will be more clear in the next version. The first one is a UUID for a label - I'm not sure of the context here. We do use UUID's throughout the system, and if you have them for certain things, like people and subjects, you can supply the ones you have, or the system will mint one for you. The second one I'm not sure, but it might be embedded binary for something like an image or a document (I mean an image of a setup - not the actual images that are part of your project). We have decided to handle this as separate files - so we will export them from the database and include them in the archive package that we will be producing - rather than having the binary inside the RDF. This was the behavior for the Beta though. Thanks for trying out the tools, and for your feedback! Carla
  9. hmm - I just downloaded and opened it just fine. It won't open when you click the link - but it should download. I'm using Acrobat and also tested it in preview on the Mac. Carla
  10. Tony - if you click on the tool/ configuration icon and click the button for "full size" that usually solves this particular problem. Sorry, I've been away from the forum a lot this summer - we'll just chalk it up to 2020 and leave it at that. Carla
  11. Wow - I think my notifications were somehow turned off - because I didn't get email about this message. And I so apologize for leaving you hanging. This is not a bug - and we are making this much simpler with the next version (I was just testing new software today) Essentially the issue is that in the Beta version you can only produce RDF for a group of image sets for Photogrammetry and for a single image set for RTI. We know this is confusing, so this is how we are fixing it: The idea is that you want to create RDF and Submission Information Packages (SIPs - new in the next version) for all of the images needed to produce a digital representation. So we are getting rid of the "groups" and instead introducing the concept of "Image Bundles." An Image bundle can be single set or multi set, depending on the technology. RTI is single set and photogrammetry is multi-set. Note that you can have a single image set in a photogrammetry image bundle - though you are allowed to have more. In RTI you can only have a single image set. It's at this image bundle level that it makes sense to do archiving and to export the metadata. We will also be providing reports for the Image bundle Bottom line is that in the Beta you have to export RDF from the group level for photogrammetry and from the image set level for RTI. This will be much cleaner in the new version, and we've integrated Inspector into the tools as well. We have massively redesigned the interface, and we are making it easier to add new "things" like people, stakeholders, etc - right when you want to use them. And lots of other updates too. It's a very active project right now. I think you will like the new tools. We will have scripts to update your database to support the new tools, since the data model has been changed to support the new features. So stay tuned - we hope to do a second Beta this fall. Carla
  12. Whoops - sorry for the delayed response. This summer has been a bit nutty - enough said. Do you get an error message, or does it just fail to detect the highlights? What platform (Mac or windows) you can also look in the .xml project log file that is created. That sometimes contains additional information about how far the process got and what might have failed. Carla
  13. Sorry, I'm a bit late to the party here - just catching up on posts, and I missed this before. In addition to the above suggestions, If you can see the whole surface you want to measure in one orthographic view - then you can make an orthomosaic and measure that. That is measuring along the surface, rather than point to point in a straight line. It doesn't work for everything, but for some situations it's a simple easy solution. Carla
  14. Hi Tom, Let me address a few things about the RTI software. First - both the RTIBuilder (with HSHFitter) and RTIViewer software are open source available upon request from us and under a GNU General Public License v3. This is noted in the software and the download page - and you only need to send email to info@c-h-i.org to receive it. We get 10-20 requests for the source code per year. Next - we are aware of the issues with the latest MacOS - Catalina and the requirement for 64bit software. We had some volunteer efforts underway to address this, which were set back with the insanity that 2020 has become. Just this week I received a test version of the HSHFitter that is 64 bit. If you want to test it, let me know. We'll release it once we've tried it out a bit. The PTMFitter is a bit trickier, because it's proprietary from HP, and none of the original folks who worked on it are there any more. We are working on a solution there, but it will take a bit longer. There is also a test version of 64bit RTIViewer for Mac - and it works fine for me (though I'm not running Catalina) and the person who tried it on Catalina couldn't get it to run. If you want to try that, again, let me know. Bottom line is that we do care about this software and know there are issues, but haven't had funding for software updates. We've put a small budget in a recent grant proposal that, if funded, should at least be able to get all the current software updated and running on the latest OS's and repackaged to get rid of the virus warning. We won't know until December if we will receive that funding. In the meantime, we hope to release these smaller pieces. There are a number of research labs working in this space. I don't know about the specific art scanner you link to, though Szymon Rusnkiewicz and team at Princeton have been doing similar things with modified flatbed scanners since 2007 - and have published some papers in this area such as this one: "A System for High-Volume Acquisition and Matching of Fresco Fragments: Reassembling Theran Wall Paintings" (with Benedict Brown, Corey Toler-Franklin, Diego Nehab, Michael Burns, David Dobkin, Andreas Vlachopoulos, Christos Doumas, and Tim Weyrich), ACM Transactions on Graphics (Proc. SIGGRAPH), 2008. We are interested in working to incorporate some of the most recent research in this area into usable tools for this community - and would like to do a proposal later this year to see if we can get it funded. We'll keep you posted if that happens. Thanks for your interest! Carla
  15. Hmm - I have it working on Windows 10 - just a regular install from our download in winter 2019. I haven't tried it recently. So sorry about all the problems. Carla
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