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  2. cdschroer

    RTI Builder Versions

    We were working on a version 3 some years ago, and we gave a Beta version to some folks who took classes with us. We were never able to release it due to some bugs that were too difficult to resolve (long story). So, it is possible that you have a 3.0 Beta version. I recommend going back to the 2.0.2 version from the website. The 3.0 Beta is known to not work with higher resolution images, as well as having some other issues. Even though 2.0.2 is marked Beta - we really should have marked it final. It's getting old now, but it's the best option for current use. We are very interested in doing a new version, but it will take some funding, and we haven't been able to make that happen yet. Carla
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  4. Dave Martin

    RTI Builder Versions

    Jlutgen, Re version numbers - the one I'm using is 2.0.2 Where you are seeing '3.0' are you sure that's not the software license you're seeing? as that is 'GPL 3.0' ? Dave
  5. jlutgen

    RTI Builder Versions

    I am confused about versions of RTI Builder. I just downloaded and installed RTI Builder on a new desktop computer and was surprised that it was still version 2.0.2, which dates to something like 2012. I also noted that in the "About" tab it was labeled "Beta". This got even more interesting when I looked at an older laptop computer that I have not used for some time and realized that not only did I have version 2.0.2 installed on that machine but I also had a version 3.0, which was clearly different from version 2.0.2. I think I may have gotten version 3.0 as a Beta tester. So, was version 3.0 never released and is version 2.0.2 really still a Beta version?
  6. cdschroer

    PTMFitter software download link

    We recently discovered that the PTM software is no longer available from the HPLabs website. We have placed both the Mac and Windows versions of the PTMFitter in a dropbox along with the license file from HP. You can get the software from here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jfsy0lhxu6zv4i4/AADJpq6E_GJmNw_s5C8r94CVa?dl=0 Also - many papers on PTM and RTI are by Tom Malzbender - and you can find them on his personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/tommalzbender/
  7. cdschroer

    PTM fitter no more available

    We recently found out about this. I've set up a dropbox folder with both the Windows and Mac versions of the PTMFitter, along with the license from HP: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jfsy0lhxu6zv4i4/AADJpq6E_GJmNw_s5C8r94CVa?dl=0 Carla
  8. The PTM fitter plug-in is no more available from HP lab site. Could anyone share it? Thanks. Sophia
  9. Hooray it even works on Mojave. I was climbing the walls, but shall now come down again. Adam
  10. I just had to do this on Mojave - and it works like a charm. We are looking into getting the proper certificates so that our software can come from a "known developer" which would prevent this problem. The certificates cost money, and it's different for Mac and Windows. That plus work needs to be done on the RTI software. We are aware of this issue though, and we will do what we can to resolve it. We appreciate all of you that support our work with donations and volunteer efforts. It really makes a difference. Carla
  11. Kira

    RTI Builder Not Working on Windows 10?

    Update: I found a solution by going directly to the RTIbuilder.jar file, bypassing the .exe launcher entirely. That opened the programme without any issues.
  12. Kira

    RTI Builder Not Working on Windows 10?

    Hi all, I had the RTI builder running this morning and it worked just fine. Coming back from lunch the programme would not open again. I have restarted the computer, reinstalled the RTI builder and reinstalled Java. No success. Has anyone got any idea what else I could try? I've got: windows 10, 64bit java 8 update201 RTIbuilder_v2_0_2 Many thanks, Kira
  13. leszekp

    Photoscan Pro vs Photomodeler Scanner

    Haven't used PhotoModeler, so can't speak about it. Did the trial version of Pix4D, and results looked good, although the trial version didn't export in the highest resolution. I've mainly worked with Photoscan, both Standard and Pro versions, and have been very satisfied with it. Have done a number of archaeological drone projects with high-accuracy GCPs using RTKGPS, and have been very happy with the results in terms of accuracy. BTW, Photoscan is dead - it's now called MetaShape.
  14. jdow

    Photoscan Pro vs Photomodeler Scanner

    I'm about to commit to either Pix4D, PhotoScan, or PhotoModeler to support a new direction in my work; and i like all three??? I'm using UAVs and piloted aircraft to capture multi-camera images of outdoor natural scenes (including structures) over large areas, intermediate size areas, and long narrow corridors. I am wary of the Structure-from-Motion systematic doming/dishing (elevation) error which I have experienced first hand with both Pix4D and PhotoModeler when using traditional (linear/parallel) flight lines. I would greatly prefer the automated camera calibration capabilities of any software which I might decide on. Also, I'm a big fan of ground control points. To gain a more diverse view perspective and to avoid the SfM doming/dishing error, I am switching to gently curved, convergent, non-traditional (non-linear/non-parallel) flight lines. If you visit my website (http://www.immersivegeomaticssolutions.com) you can see examples of the curved flight lines I'm about to start flying. I would load them here; but the file sizes are too large. Would someone venture to recommend a software at this point?
  15. cdschroer

    CHI's Resources for Photogrammetry Users

    We are focusing on good practice for collecting image sets for photogrammetry - which is independent of the software used. We feel that if people collect good image sets that follow the rules (as described in our videos) then they have useful information for now and the future contained in those image sets. Especially if they collect some metadata about what they are doing, their methodology, who was involved, the subjects and locations, etc. We are developing tools for that called the Digital Lab Notebook. While we do use Metashape (aka Photoscan) at this time, the methodology is not dependent on the software. So our freely available public information is not about Metashape. We agree that the Metashape community forums are a great place to go for information about working with that software. We do use an error reduction workflow in Metashape that is a bit different than the process most folks follow. We teach that in our training classes. We spend time looking at metrics and what they mean, and also trying to impart an understanding of the sfm photogrammetry approach, and how that informs the guidance we give on collecting image sets. Our goal is to impart knowledge rather than give a "cookbook" approach, so folks can deal with a variety of situations in their own work, and make the appropriate trade-offs to meet their needs. This kind of material doesn't fit into a forum post. Carla
  16. shahin_2036

    CHI's Resources for Photogrammetry Users

    tnx, dave, I would like to know what setting is used for CHI project in PhotoScan... and how much times is spent to finish it?
  17. Jack Hubler-Dayton

    3D File Formats to Archive and Display

    Great information, thank you for your responses Dave and Carla! I would absolutely like to avoid any potential issues with proprietary formats so it looks like I will continue using DNG and OBJ for archival purposes. Incorporating the Lab Notebook into my capture workflow during my next photogrammetry project is definitely on my list. I'm restoring a historic homestead fieldstone fence in Kansas right now and making a model of before and after should provide a good chance to gain a little familiarity with the Lab Notebook.
  18. Janis Pipars

    RTI Viewer foriPad ?

    Thank you so much, Tessa!
  19. Dave Martin

    CHI's Resources for Photogrammetry Users

    Shahin, I think the answer is "it depends"! - it depends on what you're trying to image - a small artefact or a building; it depends on what version of PhotoScan you're using (and just to confuse things, they have renamed it from PhotoScan to Metashape with the release of version 1.5); it depends on the sensor used; etc. Far and away the best place to search for help on PhotoScan is on the dedicated Agisoft forum - just search for "workflow" (almost 80 hits). One thread to which I would particularly refer you to is https://www.agisoft.com/forum/index.php?topic=9485.msg43931#msg43931 which discusses the workflow developed by Tom Noble et al of the USGS, and that of Bob Meij. (would also suggest this might be better in a thread of its own ....) Dave
  20. shahin_2036

    CHI's Resources for Photogrammetry Users

    thank you for the resources! It's great...but it not will show any suggest workflow in agisoft... Can you explain that step? for example, the best key point and tie point in align photos... thank you
  21. leszekp

    RTI Viewer foriPad ?

    Used to be - unable to find any reference to it on the iTunes store.
  22. Janis Pipars

    RTI Viewer foriPad ?

    Hello! I am wondering are there RTI Viewer app for iPad or other alternatives? Thank you so much! Janis Pipars
  23. Janis Pipars

    jpeg-exports locaton on Mac 10.14

    It works, Carla! Thank you so much! Janis Pipars
  24. cdschroer

    Scaling fix for RTIViewer on high DPI displays (Windows 10)

    Thanks for posting this! We recently got a 4K monitor we are using in a Windows environment, and ran into this issue (we are mostly a mac shop). We hadn't tracked down the best way to deal with it yet - and this is very helpful. Note that RTIBuilder (and some of our other tools like inspector and DLN: Capture Context) are written in C++ using the qt libraries for the UI. I'm guessing this is an issue with the qt libraries not handling scaling for hi-res monitors. We are seeing this problem with all of our tools. If you want to check out the Digital Lab Notebook (DLN) tools go here: http://culturalheritageimaging.org/What_We_Offer/Downloads/DLN/index.html Carla
  25. cdschroer

    Import Images problem

    Hmm - I have seen this before - but nothing else is coming to mind at the moment. Is RTIBuilder producing an xml log file? It should be in the ProjectFolder in your example. It should have the name that you gave the project when you started the project. Sometimes there are useful hints in that file. Can you take a look and/or post it here? Carls
  26. cdschroer

    jpeg-exports locaton on Mac 10.14

    Janis - You have to organize your images into a folder called jpeg-exports. The folder should be under a folder for your RTI project. For example a folder called "painting1" with a folder called "jpeg-exports" inside that. When you use RTIBuilder - you tell it to load images from "painting1" (Us the bowser tool to find that folder) Then it will look for a "jpeg-exports" folder within that folder. If you do not have a folder with that name, it will not find any images. This is documented in the RTI Guide to Highlight image processing: http://culturalheritageimaging.org/What_We_Offer/Downloads/Process/index.html I hope this helps. Carla
  27. Janis Pipars

    jpeg-exports locaton on Mac 10.14

    Hello! I am new to Reflectance Transformation Imaging and I have an issue. The RTIbuilder-v2.0.2 doesn't allow me to import the file sequence. It is telling me that jpeg-exports folder is missing in my project folder. The application doesn't allow me to create a projcet file or folder at first hand. No spacing in my file path. What do I do wrong? Any suggestions? Thank you so much! Janis Pipars
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