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  2. leszekp

    Unknown Error Detected

    I have regularly had problems with the standard PTM fitter on Windows for images larger than 24 megapixels; it usually crashes. For all my PTM processing, I've switched over to using the new ptmfitter from Custom Imaging, available at https://custom-imaging.co.uk/. It can handle images up to 100 megapixels in size, and as a bonus it's a lot faster than the original HP fitter. On the downside, it won't work with RTIBuilder, so you'll need to create an lp file with RTIBuilder, and then use that with the new ptmfitter in command line mode.
  3. Last week
  4. Sarah

    Color correction for HSHfitter

    Hi all, I am having this same issue with the "Error: Plugin. Exceptions.PathUndefined: Color correction file not found or you don't have permissions to read it" message. I tried the workaround that Michael mentioned above, but when I untick the Advanced Options box I get the "Unknown Error Detected!" message. I haven't modified the HSHFitter location path "/Applications/RTIbuilder-v2.0.2.app/Contents/Resources/Java/Fitters/HSHfitter/hshfitter" and I am running the Builder from my applications folder. Thanks for your help! Sincerely, Sarah P.S. I'm also interested in getting the PTM filter if it is available.
  5. Dave Martin

    Unknown Error Detected

    Niki/Judith, I'm just a fellow-user, not involved with RTI software development, but I also use Windows platform. If it would help you, if you can share some images I would be glad to try them if I get a chance at the weekend. Will send you message with my contact details if you would like me to try. Dave
  6. cdschroer

    Unknown Error Detected

    Wow! You folks are having a very difficult time. I'm sorry to hear it. We mostly work on Macs in our studio - though we have worked with Windows machines in training classes, and we recently added one to our collection of computers. The computer you describe should be plenty powerful to build 50MP RTI files. We also have a 5DSR for more than 3 years, and build RTIs from those images on a regular basis. We know about HPLabs taking down the ptmfitter - and most of the PTM pages from their website. We've made the ptmfitter available in a dropbox - we posted that here to the FAQ forum: I can't really explain all the problems you are having. One thing to check is whether you have rotated all the images in the image set. If there is one that is portrait for example and the rest are landscape, that will cause problems with the fitters. If you are shooting images with the camera hanging down from a tripod - or from a camera stand, then it will sometimes "auto-rotate" the images into different orientations. We recommend turning off auto-rotate and then rotating the whole set of images at once, when needed. There is a discussion comparing HSH and PTM here - there are trade-offs: That's all I've got time for tonight. There are other posts about the JPEG library error on Windows in the forum - you can try searching for that. I wish I had a better answer for you, but I'm kind of scratching my head at this point. I'm hoping other folks will chime in. Carla
  7. tturner1

    "Verify your HSH fitter path!" Mac Error

    I realize this topic is relatively old, but I am running into the same issue however the RTI Builder was successfully moved to my Applications. I also tried running the software with the example files and the HSH fitter still would not verify. I am a student and do not have the authority to download the PTM Fitter onto the Mac, neither does my advisor. I'm in a real bind here and would love any suggestions.
  8. Niki

    Unknown Error Detected

    Dear Carla and Dave, Thank you both sooo much!!!! All of the images are the same, we have the newest version of Java, we deinstalled the RTI software and then installed it again, by the way, the PTM fitter from HP labs is not available anymore, so we couldn’t make a new download and had to use the one we already had on our computer, then we restarted the computers before the processing: We tried the same images on three different computers (all Windows) and we got three different results: 1. We got “Fitting completed” but there was no file… 2. The cropping started but we got the “unable to open file” on image number 33 of 40. 3. The cropping started with the error “unable to open file” on image number 2 of 40. To point 2 is to add: We tried the process with the 32 images, and on the same computer one time it worked and one time it didn’t work. (but we need all images) During the process we get the folders: - assembly files: blend 1, cropped.lp, edge0.jpg, median0-jpg, originalset.lp - cropped files: empty - finished files: empty When we try the HSH fitter we get a “Jpeg Library Error”. We explain you the process how we get our jpgs: - We take our pictures with a CANON 5D SR in RAW. - Then we make corrections on the raw-files (make them brighter, darker, change white-balance, etc.) and we rotate the raw-files, if necessary, and convert them into tiffs. - Finally we convert the tiff-files into jpg-files with ACDSee Professional 2019. For testing we used different jpg-quality options between 69% and 100%, image size between 6,5 MB to 35 MB. With this process we got perfect results some weeks and months ago, but now most of the time it doesn’t work. – It works with really small jpgs – but we cannot use the small images, it has to work with the original ones. The original image have the size of 8688x5792 pixel. Now we made several tests with different sizes and amounts of images: Our last test with smaller jpgs (5000x3333 Pixel) worked! This are the same images as before, we just made them smaller with ACDSee Professional 2019. The very last test with 6000x4000 pixel jpgs – it didn’t work!! The example we sent you before – “000361.jpg”: We made the images smaller to the size of 5000x3333 pixels and it worked (40 images). Before we opened the existing project we just put the "new" images into the existing jpeg-exports folder with 6000x4000px – it worked! Then we tried it with bigger images, also with the existing project: 7000x4667px – it worked! (same process) Finally we tried it with the original size: 8688x5792 – it worked! During this test series we always opened the existing project – we didn’t start a new project – and it worked. Days ago when we tried it with the original size images with a new project it didn’t work; also today???? With a new project and with the high resolution images we get “unknown error detected – unable to open file”. Is there any logic for you?? Is this the result of not enough RAM? We photograph inscriptions on paper – we need to rotate them in the correct direction for reading – if this is a problem, is it possible to rotate a finished ptm-file? Do all these problems just occur on Windows computers? Is it really necessary that no other programs (for example Photoshop) are open in the background? That it’s advised that no other program runs during processing the RTI file? Additional information of our computer: Graphic card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 What kind of fitter – HSH or PTM – is better? With which one can you get better results? Do you have more ideas? Thank you!!!! Niki and Judith
  9. Oana Borlean

    RTIBuilder 2.0.2 now available on CHI website

    Hello! I am trying to download the software RTI Builder 2.0.2 and the antivirus does not let me, it says it has found a Trojan. Please help! Thank you very much!
  10. cdschroer

    Unknown Error Detected

    Thanks Dave - good suggestions! I'll add that the xml file indicates the error is in ptmfitter: DATEF="" DATES="" LEVEL="WARNING" USER="">Fitter returned an error ! Error : -1</xc:event> We see that in the screenshot as well, that ptmfitter is not able to open the file. So, try building an RTI with the hshfitter and see if that works. You have plenty of memory on your computer, and we build files this size with a less beefy machine. However there have been some issues with large files with the ptmfitter on Windows that don't occur on Mac. Also, are you rotating the images before you put them in RTiBuilder? In other words, are the images landscape or portrait, and are they all the same? They really need to be all the same. Hope this helps. Carla
  11. Dave Martin

    Unknown Error Detected

    Niki/Judith, a couple of thoughts: 1) to try and find out if it is something with the images, or with, say, memory, it would be worth as Carla says trying a down-sampled set of the same images just as a test; maybe resample them down to half their size (you can use the free IrfanView to do this in batch mode). 2) also, if you have a smaller number of the big images, does it crash the same? 3) does it always stop on 000361.jpg ? 4) the folder named says ....\cropped\... - are all the images the same size after cropping? - is there any chance the offending one is a different size? 5) is it the same if you try on a different computer? Dave
  12. Niki

    Unknown Error Detected

    dear carla, thanx a lot!!! HP Z440 workstation Intel (R) Xeon (R) CPU E5-1620 v4 @ 3,50 GHz 3.50 GHz 48,0 GB Ram 64 Bit System x64 based Processor harddisc space more than 1 TB the PTMfitter is in that directory: C:\RTIbuilder_v2_0_2\PTMFitter cropping is not started... no outher programms are running during processing RTI data attached our last xml file. what can we do? all the best yours niki and judith 003_010.xml
  13. cdschroer

    Unknown Error Detected

    Can you say more about the computer you are using and it's specs. For Example Mac book pro with 16GB RAM and MacOS 10.12.6 Also - you can look in the .xml log file that RTI Builder produces, which will sometimes give you a clue as to what is going on. In this case- from the screen shot it appears that RTiBuilder is successfully making all of your cropped files, and the failure happens within the PTMFitter. The fact that the PTMfitter can't open the file, might indicate a permissions problem. Where did you instal the ptmfitter? Are you able to build HSH based RTIs? the HSHfitter is included with RTIBuilder, so it should just work, without installing extra software. One other thing to try is to make smaller jpegs and see if it works - We regularly make RTIs of this size or larger, but we have fairly "beefy" machines with a lot of RAM (16GB - 128GB) Carla PS: If you don't know what the "fitters" are - you might want to check out the Glossary: http://culturalheritageimaging.org/What_We_Offer/Downloads/Capture/CHI-RTI-Glossary_v1.pdf
  14. dear all, WE NEED HELP!!! our RTI builder does not always work with high-resolution jpgs... In 1 from 30 trys we can built a PTM-file with high-resolution jpgs (8688x5792; approx. 12 MB) successfully, but in most of the cases it does not work and we get the message: Unknown Error Detected. Unable to open file D:\03_RTI-OeAI_2019\Master\003\raw-jpg_010\cropped-files\000361.jpg In the attachment you find the screenshot Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't - we have no idea why! We need the PTM-file with the high-resolution jpgs and we hope, somebody can solve this problem. Thank you in advance, Niki and Judith Austrian Archaeological Institute Vienna
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  16. leszekp

    Processing in Multiple Locations

    I second Dave's advice. Even a cheap laptop (<$300) should be able to process RTI imagesets in a reasonable amount of time.
  17. JasonSanders

    RTI for Sigillography -- DIGISIG project

    Yes, I know one person who is working on such similar projects. If you still searching I can check with him for you.
  18. tturner1

    Processing in Multiple Locations

    Thank you Dave, this information is extremely helpful.
  19. Dave Martin

    Processing in Multiple Locations

    Whilst I have never done trans-oceanic capture/processing, my advice would be to try and do it on site - not necessarily at the monument but whilst you are still in-country. Points which I would suggest you consider include: 1) the processing overheads are not enormous - certainly unlike the demands placed by processing SfM photogrammetry - and it is well within the capability of a reasonable modern laptop. 2) uploading to a 'cloud' location could be slow and un-reliable. 3) if you process say, same day, you can tell if all is OK; so if you discover a problem you can re-shoot and/or amend your procedures for other forthcoming sites in the same campaign. Even if you are shooting tethered where you can see results on a larger screen as you shoot, it still makes real sense to process at the earliest opportunity. As an example, if the sphere(s) get nudged part-way through a shoot, unless it is a gross movement, each frame will probably still look OK as a standalone frame, but it is only when you do the processing you may find alignment problems (I've done that and had to return to re-shoot, thankfully only 15 miles away). Processing on a good laptop might take a couple of minutes more but not hours more. Edit: another reason, similar to (3) above, is that sometimes when you process, although you didn't make a mistake shooting, when you process it, may reveal 'something', say at the edge of the field of view or just disappearing round the side of something, so you may want to pop back and re-shoot from a different camera position to try and capture more... Dave
  20. Hello all, My team and I are fairly new to the RTI process. The artifacts are in the Mediterranean while our processing systems are in the US. My question is, which would be better/easier/cost efficient, uploading the photos to the cloud in a location with unreliable wifi connection and processing on the systems in the US, or getting a laptop with the software and processing onsite? If there are other better options people have found, please let me know. We want processing to run as efficiently as possible. Any thoughts?
  21. cdschroer

    Basic hardware

    I think that John is interested in RTI - which doesn't require as beefy of a system as photogrammetry does. The good news for RTI is that it will work on a broad range of systems, though it will definitely be faster to process on a faster machine. Also, this somewhat depends on the resolution of the camera you will be using, and therefore the resolution of the finished RTIs. If you have 16GB of RAM you will be handle most RTI image sets and also load and view them in RTIViewer. I agree with Leszekp about the graphics card if doing photogrammetry, but not as critical for RTI. If you are doing a lot of photography with high resolution cameras (>25MP) then this will definitely help you. So bottom line is max out the RAM and CPU and graphics card for what you can afford. 16GB is an absolute minimum to work with high resolution images (including RTI) - and 32 if planning for photogrammetry. Pay attention to the the other components too, and not just RAM. Carla
  22. leszekp

    Basic hardware

    If you're going to do SfM work, I'd recommend at least 32 GB of RAM, and as much as you can afford (though most motherboards can't take more than 64 GB). SSD drive for the boot and main work drive, at least 256 GB; regular hard drive for longer-term storage is fine. Definitely recommend nVidia for the graphics card, and get the fastest one you can afford; video RAM is not as important. Not sure you'll be able to upgrade your ToughBook, though.
  23. JohnT

    Basic hardware

    This is a complete noobs question, but having been bitten a couple of times I will ask anyway. I am looking to set up a basic system form imaging generally and rti in particular. I have been invited to image some mason's marks by the city museum and need a computer to handle the image processing. I currently run linux so I am looking at a second hand Panasonic tough book to run specifically in this role. I understand that I need java installed and I will need cuda for the 3d reconstruction but are there any other constraints. Also what would be a minimum spec in terms of ram and memory. Many thanks JohnT
  24. hembo

    PTMFitter software download link

    Thanks. Now it worked
  25. cdschroer

    PTMFitter software download link

    I rebuilt the zip file using a different tool. I tested it - and it seems to be working fine. The original version tried to put it back in my applications folder when I unzipped it. So, hopefully this will fix it - as it seems to work correctly. Carla
  26. hembo

    PTMFitter software download link

    Hello In some reason I am not able to unzip this file on my Mac. Got a message: End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on the last disk(s) of this archive. Has someone else experienced that?
  27. cdschroer

    PTMFitter software download link

    In the dropbox are two folders one for Mac and one for Windows. In the Mac folder is a copy of the PTMfitter I have on my mac and run regularly. It doesn't seem to have an extension. I have it in my applications folder. I don't have a disk image or installer for it. I think it should work without an extension. I just tried downloading it and dropbox adds an .html extension to it. When I remove that it still thinks it's an html file when I run it from the terminal. So, I've uploaded a new copy as a zip file. Unzip it - and hopefully that will work. I don't know what the dropbox downloader is doing to the file - but it doesn't seem to like a file with no extension. Note that it's a command line tool, and not designed to work by double clicking on it. You could test it by running it from a terminal window if you are comfortable with that. Or just browsing to wherever you unzipped it from RTIBuilder in the last screen (where you execute the RTI) Carla
  28. Fionn

    PTMFitter software download link

    Hi there, Thanks for putting that up, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any file extension for the fitter for mac? Would you be able to perhaps re-upload it or provide that information?
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